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Post by lolliepop on Nov 28, 2007 7:53:41 GMT
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Post by revmichael on Nov 28, 2007 9:02:19 GMT
That's not only a very lovely thought Lollie, but there is truth in it.
Hebrews 13:1-2 says, 'Keep on loving each other as brothers. Do not forget to entertain strangers, for by so doing some people have entertained angels without knowing it.'
In 1954 I sang in the choir of the Billy Graham crusade at Harringay Arena. One night the then well-known cowboy film star Roy Rogers was the speaker. His wife also spoke and she told how she had given birth to a child who only lived a short time. She said that that child was an angel who had been sent to them to teach them many valuable lessons. She wrote a book called 'Angel Unawares' (i.e. the Authorised Version of Heb.13:1-2). Amazon still have it for sale - at least on their American website.
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Post by Fi on Nov 28, 2007 11:40:15 GMT
That's not only a very lovely thought Lollie, but there is truth in it. Hebrews 13:1-2 says, 'Keep on loving each other as brothers. Do not forget to entertain strangers, for by so doing some people have entertained angels without knowing it.' I rather like the Hindu version of that sentiment, which is to show charity and hospitality to strangers because one of them may be a god.
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Post by revmichael on Nov 28, 2007 12:22:14 GMT
That's not only a very lovely thought Lollie, but there is truth in it. Hebrews 13:1-2 says, 'Keep on loving each other as brothers. Do not forget to entertain strangers, for by so doing some people have entertained angels without knowing it.' I rather like the Hindu version of that sentiment, which is to show charity and hospitality to strangers because one of them may be a god.Yes Fi. Change the word 'god' for 'angel' and you have the same idea. As 'angel' can mean 'messenger' so, perhaps can a Hindu god be thought of as a messenger - but perhaps there is more to a Hindu god than someone who brings a message.
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Post by Beau Leggs on Nov 28, 2007 16:09:12 GMT
That's not only a very lovely thought Lollie, but there is truth in it. Hebrews 13:1-2 says, 'Keep on loving each other as brothers. Do not forget to entertain strangers, for by so doing some people have entertained angels without knowing it.' I rather like the Hindu version of that sentiment, which is to show charity and hospitality to strangers because one of them may be a god.Or the non religious version, which is to treat others as you would expect to be treated.
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Post by idiotmittens on Nov 28, 2007 16:18:31 GMT
Or the non religious version, which is to treat others as you would expect to be treated. I think it's more of a: Be kind to other people, because you don't know who they really might be. They may be angels in disguise, or they may come round to your house and set fire to your cat!!!
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Post by Beau Leggs on Nov 28, 2007 17:00:26 GMT
Or the non religious version, which is to treat others as you would expect to be treated. I think it's more of a: Be kind to other people, because you don't know who they really might be. They may be angels in disguise, or they may come round to your house and set fire to your cat!!! They can't set fire to my cat, as it has been converted.
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Post by revmichael on Nov 28, 2007 17:08:17 GMT
I think it's more of a: Be kind to other people, because you don't know who they really might be. They may be angels in disguise, or they may come round to your house and set fire to your cat!!! They can't set fire to my cat, as it has been converted. Converted into what, Beau?
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Post by Beau Leggs on Nov 28, 2007 19:03:56 GMT
They can't set fire to my cat, as it has been converted. Converted into what, Beau? A dog. Where do I claim this miracle?
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Post by Shuggie on Nov 28, 2007 21:51:33 GMT
Converted into what, Beau? A dog. Where do I claim this miracle? Ring Freephone 0800 Heaven
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Post by revmichael on Nov 28, 2007 21:58:05 GMT
Converted into what, Beau? A dog. Where do I claim this miracle? You could try the Vatican, but I seem to have lost their number.
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Post by Beau Leggs on Nov 28, 2007 23:22:41 GMT
A dog. Where do I claim this miracle? Ring Freephone 0800 Heaven Bl**dy outsourcing. Spend 2 hours talking to some Buddha bloke. He eventually said that he would e-mail the Miracle Investigation Unit.
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Post by Beau Leggs on Nov 28, 2007 23:26:20 GMT
A dog. Where do I claim this miracle? You could try the Vatican, but I seem to have lost their number. Phoned Ian Paisley, who said the number was Rome 666.
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Post by Fi on Nov 29, 2007 1:12:49 GMT
I rather like the Hindu version of that sentiment, which is to show charity and hospitality to strangers because one of them may be a god. Yes Fi. Change the word 'god' for 'angel' and you have the same idea. As 'angel' can mean 'messenger' so, perhaps can a Hindu god be thought of as a messenger - but perhaps there is more to a Hindu god than someone who brings a message. I spent a little time working in India, and came to the conclusion that the variety of beliefs within the faith are so complex they are almost inpenetrable. But the word 'God' an mean lots of things, from being as one with the supreme god to being a lesser, but no less revered God. The diversity of beliefs probably stems from the vast length of time since Hinduism was first practised - sometime about 5500 BCE. Just as Christianity and Islam evolved from Jewish beliefs, so Hindu beliefs have changed and diversified over the millenia and include the offshoots of Buddhism and Jainism. It's hallmark is inclusivity, so these different manifestations have not led to the dreadful persecutions that have given Christianity and Islam a bad name. For instance, it was explained to me that if anyone is a Christian, or even an atheist, then a Hindu would still consider the possibility that they may be a Hindu God. However, before I stray further from the point, from what little I understand, any Hindu God is not a messenger as such, but a deity or soul that can be worshipped. I went to India in 1977 and have wanted to return ever since. It's without question the most fascinating country I've ever been in and I've travelled widely. All of the Hindus I met there were unfailingly courteous, kind and welcoming. Add to that a country with a rich history and overflowing with frequently ravishingly beautiful and always interesting historical sites - it's impossible to be bored.
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Post by revmichael on Nov 29, 2007 7:53:11 GMT
Yes Fi. Change the word 'god' for 'angel' and you have the same idea. As 'angel' can mean 'messenger' so, perhaps can a Hindu god be thought of as a messenger - but perhaps there is more to a Hindu god than someone who brings a message. I spent a little time working in India, and came to the conclusion that the variety of beliefs within the faith are so complex they are almost inpenetrable. But the word 'God' an mean lots of things, from being as one with the supreme god to being a lesser, but no less revered God. The diversity of beliefs probably stems from the vast length of time since Hinduism was first practised - sometime about 5500 BCE. Just as Christianity and Islam evolved from Jewish beliefs, so Hindu beliefs have changed and diversified over the millenia and include the offshoots of Buddhism and Jainism. It's hallmark is inclusivity, so these different manifestations have not led to the dreadful persecutions that have given Christianity and Islam a bad name. For instance, it was explained to me that if anyone is a Christian, or even an atheist, then a Hindu would still consider the possibility that they may be a Hindu God. However, before I stray further from the point, from what little I understand, any Hindu God is not a messenger as such, but a deity or soul that can be worshipped. I went to India in 1977 and have wanted to return ever since. It's without question the most fascinating country I've ever been in and I've travelled widely. All of the Hindus I met there were unfailingly courteous, kind and welcoming. Add to that a country with a rich history and overflowing with frequently ravishingly beautiful and always interesting historical sites - it's impossible to be bored. Thanks for that Fi. But your description has made me want to go to India even more than I did before. PMR went on a visit to a missionary friend in India around 32 years ago and she found it fascinating. I've never been so perhaps it should go on the list. We are contemplating going to Sri Lanka in 2009.
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