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Post by Peek on Oct 21, 2009 21:42:33 GMT
Just something that's been playing on my mind lately, can anyone tell me if all the land at crematoriums is consecrated , or is it that none of it is consecrated ?
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Post by sarah on Oct 21, 2009 21:49:50 GMT
Crikey Peek, that's a good question, I hope someone can answer it! x
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Post by tigerlily on Oct 21, 2009 22:03:15 GMT
A crematorium cannot be built on consecrated ground under the Cremation Act 1902 (as amended). There is an exception in the case of Ilford Crematorium, as it is built on a secluded piece of ground within the consecrated environs of the City of London cemetery.
To the best of my knowledge, the land in a Garden of Remembrance is not consecrated.
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Post by tigerlily on Oct 21, 2009 22:10:31 GMT
If there's a particular crematorium that you have in mind, I would suggest that you call them and ask. They're usually very helpful.
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Post by troykerr on Oct 22, 2009 7:28:07 GMT
Apart from the one mentioned by Tigs I am sure that none others would be as they would be considered unacceptable to non Christians as well as to atheists etc etc.
Not even sure that land at council owned cemeteries [without a crematorium] would be consecrated other than say areas set aside for specific religious beliefs.
A quick glance at Google suggests the above is so and in some cases even areas dedicated to say Roman Catholics might not be consecrated.
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Post by Peek on Oct 22, 2009 11:34:38 GMT
Thank you both, it's something that niggles at me when I visit 2 different crematoriums, and being a non believer I would feel more comfortable wandering around if I know it's not consecrated.
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Post by troykerr on Oct 22, 2009 12:00:59 GMT
How can you tell? Do you get a tingle or something? Nips out to sprinkle Holy Water at boundary For me such places serve to let me think about people who have gone before that mean a lot to me. Most seem to have a sense of peace and quiet.
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Post by Beau Leggs on Oct 22, 2009 15:00:47 GMT
Thank you both, it's something that niggles at me when I visit 2 different crematoriums, and being a non believer I would feel more comfortable wandering around if I know it's not consecrated. And what does it matter if it was or not? If you don't believe in any religion, then any act to consecrate a bit of ground is just mumbo-jumbo. As Carl says, it is just a place to think and reflect. Since it has no previous connection with the dead person, then going to a place where the dead person was associated with would be more natural.
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Post by troykerr on Oct 25, 2009 16:38:27 GMT
As you say Beau. For me I can be close to loved ones no longer here simply by walking in the Garden or visiting place I associate with them. I know it is not for everyone but I do not do memorials which means, for one thing, I cannot then be hurt by vandals attacking a churchyard or cemetery. Nor by over zealous councils using destructive means testing stability of headstones.
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Post by Caddi Fuller-Teabags on Oct 26, 2009 18:22:32 GMT
.... Nor by over zealous councils using destructive means testing stability of headstones. As I understand it (and is suggested by this article news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7071772.stm) the real culprits for the topple test are not the councils but the unscrupulous contractors who both test and then do the work. I digress... I do agree that you can be close to someone in many other places. Maybe this is personal to me, but since my dad died the best places for me to be close to him are near water where he could have fished or in my car (as he taught me to drive). He is also close to me when I dig in my allotment or whenever I see dahlias. I don't think he was bothered about consecrated ground as long as it had worms in it!
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