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Post by Betty Dropsit on Nov 15, 2006 20:30:13 GMT
I'm absolutely in awe of the people who bid up to £30,000 for the prizes on offer every year for CiN. Have they got that kind of money just lying in their banks with nothing to do? Do they save up specially for the event? Much though I would like to, I just can't envisage being in such a position. Good on 'em!
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Post by fannybegood on Nov 15, 2006 23:06:36 GMT
Betty, these are very probably tax deductable and the winners would have to pay tax on profits anyway. However it's very good of them to support CIN like this. The day's racing with Sarah Kennedy was for eight people - what better way for a company to entertain it's best corporate customers so to speak.
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Post by dakotablu on Nov 17, 2006 14:06:36 GMT
I wondered that too Betty, but nice if you can do it.
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Post by adamzappel on Nov 18, 2006 10:51:56 GMT
I'm just thrilled for the children. The reports on CIN last night showed just how much the children will benefit and it's all contributions, big or small, that make it happen.
We all give what we can afford.
In your case , Betty, I know you'd give a million if you found it down the side of the sofa, and in the case of the large givers, I think they are giving because they want to and because they can - with no hidden agendas.
The only hidden agendas are those of the newspapers that sneer. Tel gave them short shrift yesterday and the Rev Rog agreed with him (as do I)
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Post by novicetog on Nov 18, 2006 11:43:10 GMT
At the the risk of being ostracised here, and banished to some far flung corner of the galaxy, I, and a great deal of other people (if you view the BBC Message Boards) consider that the CIN "Auction for things that money can't buy" has become obscene, and tiresome!
These "prizes", and let's face it, they are prizes in the true sense, are only snapped up by people who have well meaning intentions but are "blinded" by the fact that they get their few minutes of fame with their name on the radio, and can say to others "look how much money I've got!"
This Auction has become an option that is so far beyond the vast majority of listeners financial reach,, and where will this unseemly Financial Greed "scramble" end up at?
It has been suggested in other Boards on other sites, that maybe a fairer way is for all of these prizes to be raffled, with all each listeners paying a donation to CIN, of say, £5 or £10. That would be more acceptable.
Some may say that there are other alternative options that you can bid for, but not everyone has Internet Access options. yes, bid for a record but there is no guarantee it will get played.
Whilst not decrying the good work that CIN undertakes each year, this annual "yawnfest" is now in serious need for an overhaul. I for one, did not watch CIN last night, and as for this week, despite being a diehard STW fan, I switched off, as listening to him perpetuating the "give us your money" tone, is just a complete turn-off.
As for the newspaper reports that STW & Canon Roger Royle sneered at, the papers only reported the findings of an Independent body.
Now, I stand back, and await the public flogging for even considering negative thoughts on CIN!
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Post by Dibley on Nov 18, 2006 13:44:18 GMT
Well I for one would like to say my four pennyworth...
I don't read newspapers, so do not know what has been written. I think the auction is a great piece of radio... for goodness sake its only for 1 hour on 4 days once a year.
Are these people who complain about the huge monies involved, actually able to bid? I for one find it hard just to give £20, it doesn't matter that I can't bid in the thousands.. I know thats not my league... I'm not in the least bit jealous that some people are in that league.
What does it matter if its big business's who are bidding, so they get something to use with their clients.. what the hell does it matter... at the end of the day its MONEY for children in need.
What about the individuals who pledge, they could do something else with their money, but they decide to give it to CiN, good for them. Does it matter if they have it sitting in their bank account, or that they have saved it over the year, just for CiN. Its none of OUR business...
I have a box on my hall table. every Saturday I go to my purse and put all the copper coins in the box, then in November, I count it all and donate it to CiN. That's my way of helping CiN all the year round. Perhaps some of these other people do the same, but they collect bigger amounts than me!
At the end of the day it is the money that is important for the CHARITY. I for one as a teacher of deaf children, have received money from CiN on several occassions over the past 25 years, and I am very grateful for all those people who have donated money, however much it is.
Dbs xx (end of rant)
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Post by Dibley on Nov 18, 2006 13:48:19 GMT
I for one as a teacher of deaf children, have received money from CiN on several occassions over the past 25 years, I of course didn't receive the money personally, but was able to use it for activities for the children. They have benefitted enormously from CiN Dibs xx
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Post by adamzappel on Nov 18, 2006 15:08:05 GMT
Well I for one would like to say my four pennyworth... I don't read newspapers, so do not know what has been written. I think the auction is a great piece of radio... for goodness sake its only for 1 hour on 4 days once a year. Are these people who complain about the huge monies involved, actually able to bid? I for one find it hard just to give £20, it doesn't matter that I can't bid in the thousands.. I know thats not my league... I'm not in the least bit jealous that some people are in that league. What does it matter if its big business's who are bidding, so they get something to use with their clients.. what the hell does it matter... at the end of the day its MONEY for children in need. What about the individuals who pledge, they could do something else with their money, but they decide to give it to CiN, good for them. Does it matter if they have it sitting in their bank account, or that they have saved it over the year, just for CiN. Its none of OUR business... I have a box on my hall table. every Saturday I go to my purse and put all the copper coins in the box, then in November, I count it all and donate it to CiN. That's my way of helping CiN all the year round. Perhaps some of these other people do the same, but they collect bigger amounts than me! At the end of the day it is the money that is important for the CHARITY. I for one as a teacher of deaf children, have received money from CiN on several occassions over the past 25 years, and I am very grateful for all those people who have donated money, however much it is. Dbs xx (end of rant) Dibley, You are a true TOG. I salute your attitude and your principles and hope I truly share your values. There are others not a million miles away who could do with a little attitude-adjustment!
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Post by novicetog on Nov 18, 2006 16:47:02 GMT
AdamZappel,
If you want to suggest by name, that I'm the one who's not a million miles away and in need of a little attitude adjustment, go aheadl I won't be offended, really!
It just gets to me that it's always CIN! Why can't the BBC have a different charity each year, or at least take up more than one Charity and split the monies evenly?
Charity groups across the UK are always saying that their incomes dip after CIN month, as everyone has spent, spent, spent with CIN. Why should it be that one sole Charity get all the limelight, and others suffer in their wake?
But if the BBC wouldn't consider dropping CIN, then for goodness sake, change it. The present format on both radio and TV is now bland, boring, repetitive, and needs fixing. Don't get me wrong, I paid my way, and bought several items via this site, and my local BBC studios; I contributed like a lot of other people, even though I am unemployed, and fInances are hard going.
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Post by cheesygrin on Nov 18, 2006 21:01:39 GMT
But if the BBC wouldn't consider dropping CIN, then for goodness sake, change it. The present format on both radio and TV is now bland, boring, repetitive, and needs fixing. If it ain't bust don't fix it. It might not be your cup of tea but there are plenty of folks out there who do enjoy the programs in their current form. It's only once a year and easy enough to avoid if you want to.
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Post by Admin on Nov 18, 2006 22:37:28 GMT
At the the risk of being ostracised here, and banished to some far flung corner of the galaxy, I, and a great deal of other people (if you view the BBC Message Boards) consider that the CIN "Auction for things that money can't buy" has become obscene, and tiresome! These "prizes", and let's face it, they are prizes in the true sense, are only snapped up by people who have well meaning intentions but are "blinded" by the fact that they get their few minutes of fame with their name on the radio, and can say to others "look how much money I've got!" This Auction has become an option that is so far beyond the vast majority of listeners financial reach,, and where will this unseemly Financial Greed "scramble" end up at? It has been suggested in other Boards on other sites, that maybe a fairer way is for all of these prizes to be raffled, with all each listeners paying a donation to CIN, of say, £5 or £10. That would be more acceptable. Some may say that there are other alternative options that you can bid for, but not everyone has Internet Access options. yes, bid for a record but there is no guarantee it will get played. Whilst not decrying the good work that CIN undertakes each year, this annual "yawnfest" is now in serious need for an overhaul. I for one, did not watch CIN last night, and as for this week, despite being a diehard STW fan, I switched off, as listening to him perpetuating the "give us your money" tone, is just a complete turn-off. As for the newspaper reports that STW & Canon Roger Royle sneered at, the papers only reported the findings of an Independent body. Now, I stand back, and await the public flogging for even considering negative thoughts on CIN! There is little in the way of heresy here. People do get very enthusiastic about CIN. It's our 'pet' charity. Other people are just as zealous about their own charities. The support of these charities is a very personal thing. Where something is being sold to generate money for a charitable cause, if you can afford it, and would like to purchase the thing being sold, then hopefully everyone is happy. Everyone also has their own idea of what is an important cause. I like the idea of Children in Need because I rather like children. Others feel just as strongly about guide-dogs, donkey rescue, amnesty international, etc. It's down to choice. As to the 'yawnfest', even though I am in the fortunate position to be able to attend the shows I will concede that there are acts which I don't particularly enjoy, but as their time is being given freely and in a good cause, I'll clap along with everyone else. It could be argued that the only reason that I do the few bits I do for the charity is in order to get my face on the telly! I don't believe that the rich folks who part with lots of money do it for completely unselfish reasons, they may well enjoy the buzz (as do I) of contributing something in this all too brief existance that actually improves the life of someone not so fortunate. They might just want the things they've bought. Does it really matter? Money given out of pure altruism spends just the same as that given out of covetousness.
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