Lucy Lastic
Young Limb
Another cynical ex hippy now working for the establishment
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Post by Lucy Lastic on May 22, 2007 7:11:33 GMT
We had a thread about gardening snobbery on another board but what about these awful food snobs? I caught a programme last night called Market Kitchen where some woman was talking about what was 'in' and what was 'out'. Did you know that rocket is now passé " SO last yeah, dahling!" - mizuna is now de rigeur in all the best kitchens apparently.
I had heard a few comments about this programme so decided to have a look, I'd seen about 10 mins last week. The presenters are Tana Ramsay (wife of Gordon) and Tom Parker-Bowles (son of Camilla) - talk about celebrity by association? Their presenting skills are zilch - the Flowerpot men puppets would be less wooden! The other presenter was Matthew Fort who is one of the judges on Great British Menu and one of the worst offenders when it comes to food snobbery. It's called Market Kitchen, is supposed to be using the best of MARKET food but is sponsored by Waitrose. There's a competition to win £100 of Waitrose vouchers - VERY useful to those of us in Scotland, wales & NI where Waitrose's tentacles have not yet reached!
I shan't be watching this again!
Has anyone else seen this programme? Did you like it?
Oh, I do feel better after a good old rant!!
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Post by faeryboots on May 22, 2007 7:21:04 GMT
I'm always in two minds about programmes that worship food and treat it as a designer fad, it seems a wee bit sick when there are people in the world dying of starvation. Sorry, I know that's a bit controversial but it's the way I feel. I love swopping recipes etc and am always willing to try new things. I encourage my children to eat properly and teach them about nutrition etc. They also are encouraged to grow their own veg; and I let them know just how lucky they are.
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Lucy Lastic
Young Limb
Another cynical ex hippy now working for the establishment
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Post by Lucy Lastic on May 22, 2007 8:34:01 GMT
I'm always in two minds about programmes that worship food and treat it as a designer fad, it seems a wee bit sick when there are people in the world dying of starvation. Sorry, I know that's a bit controversial but it's the way I feel. I love swopping recipes etc and am always willing to try new things. I encourage my children to eat properly and teach them about nutrition etc. They also are encouraged to grow their own veg. I also let them know just how lucky they are. Good for you! Most of us do teach our children to eat properly and we do recognise that there are people who go hungry but that does not mean that programmes about food should not be shown. Maybe we shouldn't have restaurants because some people can't afford to go to them, or there should be no gardening programmes because not everyone has a garden. I don't think all these programmes 'worship food' - many of them demonstrate simple food easily cooked, even by novices and try to encourage people to cook fresh food rather than buy ready meals from a supermarket thereby helping them to eat good nutritious food instead of stuff loaded with additives and E numbers. Anything that does this should surely be encouraged.
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Post by carlott on May 22, 2007 10:14:16 GMT
I'm always in two minds about programmes that worship food and treat it as a designer fad, it seems a wee bit sick when there are people in the world dying of starvation. Sorry, I know that's a bit controversial but it's the way I feel. I love swopping recipes etc and am always willing to try new things. I encourage my children to eat properly and teach them about nutrition etc. They also are encouraged to grow their own veg. I also let them know just how lucky they are. Good for you! Most of us do teach our children to eat properly and we do recognise that there are people who go hungry but that does not mean that programmes about food should not be shown. Maybe we shouldn't have restaurants because some people can't afford to go to them, or there should be no gardening programmes because not everyone has a garden. I don't think all these programmes 'worship food' - many of them demonstrate simple food easily cooked, even by novices and try to encourage people to cook fresh food rather than buy ready meals from a supermarket thereby helping them to eat good nutritious food instead of stuff loaded with additives and E numbers. Anything that does this should surely be encouraged.I agree Lucy and it was through watching such programmes [the down to earth ones] that I learned that you could experiment with recipes not just follow them slavishly.
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Post by faeryboots on May 22, 2007 11:09:25 GMT
I'm always in two minds about programmes that worship food and treat it as a designer fad, it seems a wee bit sick when there are people in the world dying of starvation. Sorry, I know that's a bit controversial but it's the way I feel. I love swopping recipes etc and am always willing to try new things. I encourage my children to eat properly and teach them about nutrition etc. They also are encouraged to grow their own veg. I also let them know just how lucky they are. Good for you! Most of us do teach our children to eat properly and we do recognise that there are people who go hungry but that does not mean that programmes about food should not be shown. Maybe we shouldn't have restaurants because some people can't afford to go to them, or there should be no gardening programmes because not everyone has a garden. I don't think all these programmes 'worship food' - many of them demonstrate simple food easily cooked, even by novices and try to encourage people to cook fresh food rather than buy ready meals from a supermarket thereby helping them to eat good nutritious food instead of stuff loaded with additives and E numbers. Anything that does this should surely be encouraged.I have no problem with the sort of programmes whereby you learn new and interesting things, it's only with the type of programme you mentioned. Who ever makes these decrees about what is and isn't fashionable does not stop to think that they may be putting a small farmer or market trader in jeopardy by saying something is 'last season'. I enjoy other food programmes, particularly the Arabella Weir and Richard E Grant mickey takes, I just think that some of these things should be a little more considered.
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Post by carlott on May 22, 2007 11:14:33 GMT
I enjoy other food programmes, particularly the Arabella Weir and Richard E Grant mickey takes, That is just excellent.
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Post by michaelesterol on May 22, 2007 14:35:05 GMT
Well you know it only comes from the clowns who buy into this crap.
Jamie Oliver and ther rest of the crap that get's thrown at us, and off the sheep toootle to buy the books, and the gloves and the special Jamie Oliver matches....crap crap crap.
There's a series on BBC2 about Great British Cookery, where British regional chefs are supoosed to impress a French audience....!
It's all so much up it's own botty it unreal.
Cooking is a piece of p**s.
Just spend a bit of time mastering the basics and never read a cook book again.
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Lucy Lastic
Young Limb
Another cynical ex hippy now working for the establishment
Posts: 33
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Post by Lucy Lastic on May 22, 2007 15:20:43 GMT
Well you know it only comes from the clowns who buy into this crap. Jamie Oliver and ther rest of the crap that get's thrown at us, and off the sheep toootle to buy the books, and the gloves and the special Jamie Oliver matches....crap crap crap. There's a series on BBC2 about Great British Cookery, where British regional chefs are supoosed to impress a French audience....! It's all so much up it's own botty it unreal. Cooking is a piece of p**s. Just spend a bit of time mastering the basics and never read a cook book again. Aren't the chefs just so precious? As for the judges, have you ever seen such a pretentious trio.I really can't buy into this 'celebrity chef' cr@p. It's an excuse for them to charge exorbitant prices in their, oh so chic, restaurants.
There was a programme last year called Britain's food heroes (or something like that) which showcased local food producers throughout the UK. I didn't always agree with the judges' (one of whom was Gary Rhodes who gets right on my wotsit) selections but it did give an good idea of what was available locally and the details of the contestants was given on the UKTV Food website.
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Post by Glen B Ogle on May 22, 2007 17:47:20 GMT
I am in agreement with much of the above - food is about enjoyment, not what's "in" or "out". I find Gary Rhodes the worst, personally. The number of times he claims to be cooking something the way his mother did is unbelievable - his mother was clearly a Michelin starred chef!
I once fell out with my (now ex) German boss over food. A group of us were stopping at the Florence Hilton and went out to a recommended restaurant for dinner. My boss was insistent I must have a Florentine Steak for dinner (basically take an inch or so thick steak, hang it for a couple of weeks, then show it a frying pan). I like my steak cooked! I refused the steak suggesting that anyone who tells me what to eat is an arrogant *** (not in quite those words). This may explain why I no longer work for that company! Seriously, I did try a bit of the steak and thought it was like eating wet sponge (not that I've tried that). I persuaded the chef to cremate a couple of chops instead and they were "Molto Bene".
Glen
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Post by sarah on May 22, 2007 21:53:20 GMT
lol Glen, I can't do red/blue meat either, ewwwwwwwwwwwww and as for lamb that has barely touched the pan - shivers! kill it, cook it, and then a bit more please. Barnsley, did you see the starter with offal and snails? - pass the bucket! x
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Post by Ciara Genn on May 23, 2007 22:44:07 GMT
I think there are too many cookery programmes on the box these days and too many books as spin-offs of these. A lot of the recipes use ingredients that (a) are hard to get and (b) you never use again so they just rot in your cupboard. I think instead of programmes about so-called fancy foods it would be better for young folks to have basic cookery programmes to show them how to cook plain food like mince and potatoes, roast beef etc.
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Post by dottydoc on May 25, 2007 9:05:36 GMT
I wonder what the'celebrity 'cooks would do with the items Paul Merton ate/ tried to eat/ couldn't stomach in the first of his series travelling through China ? Crispy cockroaches on a bed of mizuno with a beetroot and redcurrent jus? Lightly fried donkey and sheep penis with a pommery mash and - oh I don't know! But I do think that paul m was very brave to try eating them!
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Post by carlott on May 25, 2007 11:03:11 GMT
show them how to cook plain food like mince and potatoes, . I must hide this from Tiglet she was brought up on Mince and Tatties and now goes green at the very mention. Mind she goes the same at the mention of cauliflower cheese and Macaroni cheese. But then her mother is from the cook everything to within an inch of it's life then a bit beyond school of cookery.
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Post by tigerlily on May 25, 2007 19:25:48 GMT
Oooooohhh...soggy veg!
Worse still: casserole made from the leftovers of the Sunday roast.
grimacing
Everything we ate as tygs was freshly prepared. I was shocked when I went to uni and I was the only person who actually cooked any meal from scratch. The majority of my evening meals even now are done from scratch, though I confess to buying those wee bags of veg you can microwave to serve with my chop or chicken or whatever.
The FMA also learned to cook as a child - even umpteen years in the military didn't kick it out of him, and he actually cooks far more adventurous dishes than I do! He spent several years in Louisiana and learned how to cook Cajun dishes, picked up Indonesian cookery when in Holland, and is actually capable of producing interesting and unusual food using a barbecue that is edible and delicious and very far from sausages and burgers.
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Post by Anne Tique on Apr 25, 2023 14:52:50 GMT
Well you know it only comes from the clowns who buy into this crap. Jamie Oliver and ther rest of the crap that get's thrown at us, and off the sheep toootle to buy the books, and the gloves and the special Jamie Oliver matches....crap crap crap. There's a series on BBC2 about Great British Cookery, where British regional chefs are supoosed to impress a French audience....! It's all so much up it's own botty it unreal. Cooking is a piece of p**s. Just spend a bit of time mastering the basics and never read a cook book again. Philistine. You’d struggle to fry an egg.
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